Does God Hate Sinners?
We can only understand hatred from a sinful and broken perspective. We know when we hate something that it is tainted with sin. When we hear that God hates something we are shocked by it, and yet, that is what the Bible clearly says (Psalm 5:4-5, etc.). The word used for "hate" in the 5th Psalm means "to have an aversion, unwilling or unable to put up with, to dislike intensely".
In other words, God, in His perfect righteousness and holiness is unable, and unwilling to put up with evil and the evildoer. What does that mean for our attitude toward those who hate God? What does that mean concerning God's disposition toward us when we sin? First, you have to ask, "What biblical category am I in?"
The Bible speaks of two categories of people - the righteous and the wicked. Read Psalm 1 for a clear depiction of the two categories. You can also read Matthew 25 to hear Jesus' words concerning the wicked and the righteous. There are no in-between people. We are either wicked or we are righteous.
The Bible also speaks of these two types of people as either under the Covenant God has made with His people or outside of the Covenant God has made with His people. You guessed it, those under the Covenant are those who are viewed as righteous and loved by God. Those outside of the Covenant are those viewed as wicked and hated by God. We are either a sheep or a goat. We are either righteous or wicked. We are either loved or hated.
The Covenant was made by God after sin entered the world. He promised that He would redeem the world and offer salvation. The entire Old Testament concerns the preparation of the fulfillment of that Covenant. At it's core, the Covenant is this, "I will be Your God and you will be My people. I will dwell with you and you will dwell with Me." Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of that Covenant. That is why He said at the Last Supper, "This cup is the New Covenant in my blood which is poured out for many."
How does someone enter into the Covenant God has made with his people? There is only one way and that is through faith in Jesus Christ as the author and perfector of our faith. When we come to faith in Jesus, we are united to the person of Christ and His work. Everything that Jesus did and accomplished is on our behalf. When God sees us, he no longer sees our wickedness because our sins have been paid for and cleared by the life, death and resurrection of Jesus. In other words, justice has been served on our behalf. Through Christ, God is perfectly just in loving people who once hated Him and sinned against Him.
For those under the Covenant through faith in Christ, there is never a time that you can make God love you more and there is never a time that you can make God love you less. God will never hate on you again. Even when you sin, and God is grieved, He doesn't fall out of love with us. He disciplines us and he calls us back into fellowship with Him. You can never lose the salvation that has been graciously given to you. It wasn't given to you because of good works and it can't be taken from you because of sinful works.
What about those people outside of the Covenant? God will not put up with and is unable to put up with their rebellion. God graciously calls those outside of the Covenant to leave their rebellion and to enjoy the blessings of His love inside of the Covenant. Romans 5 tells us that God demonstrated His own love for us in this, that while we were still God-haters, Christ died for us. In other words, even though God hates the wicked and the wickedness they commit, He still gave His son to call His enemies to be sons. This is the scandalous grace at the center of the Gospel.
If God hates the sinner and the sin, how does that affect our mission? Are we to hate the sinner as well? The simple answer is "no". Jesus tells us to love our enemies. This is the same word that Paul uses in Romans 5 to tell us how God demonstrated His love by offering His son for HIs enemies. We are not called to judge those outside of the Covenant. That is why the Scriptures tell us that vengeance belongs to the Lord. Our mission is to love our enemies by telling them of the great news of the Gospel and to act in such a way that makes the love of Christ evident in our lives.
The Christian Church has a problem. We mistake sayings that fit on coffee mugs for true theology. There is truth in the saying, "Love the sinner and hate the sin" but it is not robust enough to encompass a conversation concerning God's aversion to sin and His holy wrath. The saying has it's most modern use in a statement from Ghandi rather than any Christian source. Augustine instructed the church to love mankind and revile sin. It is a thoroughly Christian concept to love people and to hate evil. But that statement becomes more complex when we speak about the attributes of God.
I would also suggest that we stop using that particular statement, as those that we intend to encourage with it actually hate the saying. The reason they hate it is because today's culture easily identifies their personhood with their sin. In other words, to tell a person today that you hate their sin is equivalent to telling them that you hate them. It's not a helpful statement in most Western conversations about sin. We need something deeper and a more compassionate way to love and serve those who are on the outside looking in.
There is obviously much more to discuss concerning God's hatred of evil and evildoers. But for now, the biggest question you must answer is whether or not you have come to true faith in Christ and are under the Covenant. These passages were included in the original Scriptures to lead us to the holiness of God and our total dependence on His grace. There is no need to be ashamed of these passages or try to explain them away. Rather, let them be passages that lead us to worship God more fervently for the deep grace He has given us in Christ. You are no longer enemies, but sons and daughters of the living God. Let us be motivated to grow the family even bigger so that many can experience the love of God that we have in Christ Jesus.
Obviously God hates sinners not just their sin. Therefore, God hates me. There's no point in asking Him for forgiveness. I'm doomed.Dont try to tell me otherwise.
I will not try to convince you, but the Word of God can.
Romans 8:1-2 NLT
"So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death."
Romans 8:34-39 NLT
"Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us. Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? (As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.” ) No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us. And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Romans 5:1-2 NLT
"Therefore, since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us. Because of our faith, Christ has brought us into this place of undeserved privilege where we now stand, and we confidently and joyfully look forward to sharing God’s glory."
Romans 5:6-11 NLT
"When we were utterly helpless, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners. Now, most people would not be willing to die for an upright person, though someone might perhaps be willing to die for a person who is especially good. But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners. And since we have been made right in God’s sight by the blood of Christ, he will certainly save us from God’s condemnation. For since our friendship with God was restored by the death of his Son while we were still his enemies, we will certainly be saved through the life of his Son. So now we can rejoice in our wonderful new relationship with God because our Lord Jesus Christ has made us friends of God."
You're not doomed! I promise you. Satan is telling you lies. Simply repent. It doesn't matter what you've done. Killed a man? God forgives killers. Committed adultery? God forgives adulterous. There's nothing that can separate you from God's love.
I will go to hell for being a sinner?
Romans 10:9 says that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. God will invite you into His kingdom if You believe in Jesus and follow God. That doesn’t mean that you’re gonna be perfect. We never are. God has abundant grace. Lamentations 3:22-23 says that God’s mercy is new every morning, and His love never ceases. So, the short answer is no, if you follow and believe in Christ. If you don’t follow and believe in Christ, you will.
Dear, God only hates sinners because of their sins. Refer to 1John1:9, reason why He created room for repentance is to prove His love for sinners that sincerely decide to come to repentance; so technically, He loves the sinner (that choses to detach himself from sin. That's the clause)
If God hate sinners, then does he at least understand why most sinners do evil? I know why most sinners do evil. It is because they have a lot of hurt and pain in their hearts...
God punishing the wicked for their evil doings is like taking NyQuil for the common fold. He ain't treating the cause, he's treating the symptom.
That makes me question, if this is the case, is God really all-knowing???
Tim, there is a caveat to your Nyquil example. That is that God has provided the cure for the underlying sickness of sin through His Son Jesus. So He has addressed the disease, not just the symptoms. It's therefore those who reject his cure that fall under his wrath. "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son." (John 3:18)
Yeah, but God is the one who forced the first guy who catch the cold (Adam) to sneeze into the ventillation shaft to make everyone else catch it.
God punishing people in hell without the chance for redemption, reformation, purgation, or euthanasia, is like locking the sick person in a quarantine and continually suppressing him immune system to keep him sick for the rest of his life because he didn't trust you or the cure you offered which every baptist preacher sells like snake oil.
God does provide a chance for redemption. If you follow Christ and believe in Him, there is no condemnation for you. God didn’t force Adam to “sneeze into the ventilation shaft.” Adam did that himself by winning against God. God must give us consequences so that we can be in right relationship with Him. Just like a loving parent would discipline their child to turn them on the right path.
True. And the NyQuil is then like the law that never helped us anyway.
One can only conclude, then, that God's hate for the world is vastly greater than his love for it.
His love was enough to send himself to be put through about 9 hours of torture at the hands of the Roman Government to bring some of his favorites into heaven. But Jesus foreknew exactly how much pain he would go through down to the last synapse. Pointless pain is suffering. Jesus did not truly suffer as humans do. Jesus took no risk, either. Nothing like what humans go through.
However, God's hate is enough to arrange that one man's sin would bring endless waves of suffering to an entire species (Romans 5:12) and personally maul womankind's hips to make childbearing miserable (Gen. 3:16), and make the rest of us without exception be 100% unable to not sin, (Psalm 51:5) by God engraining that sinful nature into our flesh individually to all humans (Psalm 139:13), sin being a crime which God punishes, caring not for the nature nor scale of the crime, by sustaining his victims in immortality (1 Timothy 6:16) to torture forever, while God's love is the escape clause granted to those who are convinced by other humans who sin with great hypocrisy and cruelty (Christians) or a tome that makes the same claims as many other religious books (the Bible).
In essence, God's hate and love for humanity means that the Gospel is about collecting your Jesus Card to avoid the God who hates you because of how he created you.
This is why God throws virtuous and loving people who are part of the wrong religion into hell, while letting psychopathic rapists who slip in their deathbed confession into heaven.
2 Peter 3:9 says that the Lord desires that no one should go to hell, so He is patient in coming back. He does not want us to die, but there must be punishment for not trusting in Him. The problem is not necessarily that the person had the wrong religion, but that he specifically chose not to follow the God who created and loves the man. Every sin is worthy of death, but God is gracious enough to forgive those who turn to Him in faith and repentance. I do not believe that Jesus knew all that He would suffer, but that God the Father decided not to reveal everything. Jesus suffered all of His life! Jesus suffered more than us, because He did nothing wrong, but bore our shame and God the Father’s wrath for us! Hebrews 4:15 says that Jesus was tempted in every way that we are, but did not sin. God the Father, the one that Jesus was so incredibly close with, turned away from Jesus, because all of our sin was upon Jesus Christ! God is not the one that forced us to be unable to not sin, but we did by sinning and then being born into sin and sinful desires. There must be punishment for sin, and sometimes the punishments affect others as well, not just us. We humans need to learn that our actions have consequences, and the woman that would continue to have childbearing pains would also continue to sin. We aren’t completely sinless and worthy of God taking away our pain, but God offers a way out of the pain one day. God’s love for us is much greater than His hate, because if His hate was greater, we would have no way out, but we would all be automatically doomed to hell, but instead we get another chance!
"there must be punishment for not trusting in Him"
That can't be true: neither the saved nor Jesus are burning forever in hell as the prescribed punishment for human sin. There is no cosmic bookkeeping that affects God.
"chose not to follow the God who created and loves the man" That's what choosing the wrong religion is.
"God the Father decided not to reveal everything" That's conjecture. Jesus knew he's be handed over and crucified. The fact he isn't burning in he forever means he has not suffered pur penalty. That's not how the atonement works. The atonement is about blood, not pain.
"but we did by sinning and then being born into sin and sinful desires."
Alright, carefully explain to me how you yourself caused your own birth as a person with a sinful nature, hiw you sinned before you were born, thus making yourself guilty of the natural consequent sin you were necessarily doomed to commit along with the rest of those around you. Tell me what you did pre-incarnate to deserve your sinful flesh.
"sometimes the punishments affect others as well,"
I repeat what Calvin rightly points out: it is not owing to nature that one man's sin bring disaster onto his progeny while reborn Christians who procreate can't bear children reborn from infancy. It is the arbitration of God that brings Adam's sin upon us. (Institutes 3.21.7)
"the woman that would continue to have childbearing pains would also continue to sin" This is also God's arbitration. Explicitly, a personal choice to cause pain that will never be avoided so long has childbirth is ever a concept.
"if His hate was greater, we would have no way out, but we would all be automatically doomed to hell, but instead we get another chance!"
All of those who have been turned away from the Gospel are doomed by God, have no way out, and are already automatically doomed to hell by proxy.
In fact, the slight trickling of "grace" of temporal pleasure on earth is a perfect prelude to the eternal damnation God plans to glory in to those whom he will suddenly refuse a change to be redeemed once he takes away their lives here. Sadness isn't so sad if you've never been happy. It's sadistic.
God arranged we be born sick, and commands us all to be well, then sends out many doctors, but only one of them can heal us, and we never find out for sure if we're healed until we are discharged, unable to return to the hospital to pick another doctor.
God so loved the world that he sent his only son to die for us. (John 3:16) not to condemn us but save us. (John 3:17) Every good parent knows the overwhelming love that parents have for their children....a special love like no other. Parents would do anything to protect their children so that they do not suffer or die prematurely. That's a powerful love. And yet God sent his son to die to save all of us. What does that tell you about his love for us?? And Jesus willingly laid down his life so that we can be saved.
God created humans to love...much as parents choose to have kids. He gave us free will because no love is worthwhile if it is forced....does he want us to submit to him and obey him? Yes because that makes us better people. Dont we expect our children to obey us so that they grow into caring adults? But we choose to sin. Not just Adam...all of us. God didn't make us sinners. We chose and still choose to be sinners. If God made us so that we choose not to sin what does that prove? Nothing. A puppet gets not credit for what it can do. Its a puppet. And if God forced us to do what was right we would be puppets and it would mean nothing. When adam and eve sinned they could no longer be in Gods presence because God is holy. Its his nature....its the way he is and it cannot be changed...just like fire can only be hot...God can only be holy and only holy people can go to heaven. Adam chose to sin and became sinful, passing this propensity to sin to his children. God didnt do it. Adam did by raising his children with that sinful nature that he chose and children learn what they see. Our actions have consequences that affect other people. God did not make people sinful.
God also did not curse Eve with painful childbearing. God cursed the serpent...thats all. He merely told Eve that now that she had a mortal body, childbirth would be painful. And why wouldnt it be?? A baby is being forced thru a tiny opening! People have added words to scripture to make it sound like God punished Eve by increasing her birthing pains but that's not true.
Jesus endured abuse and hardship for three years during his ministry. Before that he suffered like all people. He got sick, he experienced pain and hardship (he was poor) he experienced death (his friends and has own father) he experienced ridicule, bullying, beatings crucifixion...the betrayal of a close friend. Yes he knew he would suffer and then be risen...but if we accept him as our Savior we will know that as well. We will know our suffering will one day and...just like he did.
Yes murderers go to heaven but only if they are sincerely and truly sorry. Have you ever done something wrong and realized how wrong it was and truly repented, swearing to never do it again? You changed...you grew...you were no longer that person. Should you never be forgiven? Should it be held against you forever? How loving that God forgives those who are truly sorry! Do good people go to hell? Those who resist God and refuse to accept him. Is that cruel? Should God save people who hate him? Or refuse to believe in Him or that Jesus died for them? He gives everyone the chance to be saved...he desires that now one goes to hell so he tells us exactly what we have to do...and people refuse. That is people condemning themselves to hell...not God.
We dont know why God does some of the things he does but we do know that he is the essence of good so he cannot do anything that is not good or righteous.
It is Satan who wants to send everyone to hell...he purposely makes people sin so they will turn from God...satan brings misery into this world, not God. God gives us a way to avoid hell. God is not in heaven like an evil dictator suppressing everyone. For whatever reason, God is holy and only holy people can go to heaven. And because he loves us He has provided us a way
The Father sent the son so that the Father might condemn us (John 3:18) without the son's need to.
A parent's love is restorative and it never gives up, but God gives you a deadline to choose the right doctor, and if you don't choose the right one in time, he locks you in a closet and beats you forever.
We do not choose to be sinners. We are created so from the womb.
"If God made us so that we choose not to sin what does that prove? Nothing."
If God made us so that we choose TO sin like he has, it also proves nothing. If one is pointless so is the other. There is none righteous. Our choices can't make us sinless. God could have done the opposite: he shouldn't NEED to prove anything.
"People have added words to scripture..." show me your research, that God didn't really say in Gen 3:16 "I will multiply your suffering..." I wanna know why you think that. It would make the OT a lot less horrendous.
"but only if they are sincerely and truly sorry." No. They go if they choose the right religion. If they repent but happen to be Moslems, Jesus doesn't care, now does he? A man who commits an honor-suicide to punish a murder he commits still goes to hell if he's a buddhist.
"Should it be held against you forever?" Ask God that, why he holds sins against sinners forever if they bet on the wrong god.
"Is that cruel? Should God save people who hate him?" Do all Moslems and Jews hate God because they were harmed by the church? Explain to me how much Anne Frank resisted God's love.
Yes, he should save those who hate him, lest he be a hypocrite. People hate "god" because they don't know who God is, thinking that a true God is like yours. People don't believe in the church's Jesus because the Church declares with its hands how much God hates them. Why should a homosexual trust a god whose church hates homosexuals? Why should a woman seek meaning in a god whose church wants women to be silent?
You describe God giving people a "chance" like mobster giving the shop-owner a "chance" to pay the protection fee.
"...he cannot do anything that is not good or righteous." Then why are you accusing God of doing infinite violence to good people of the wrong faith?
The "way" that you say God is providing is a way out of how he has arranged our birth. God put Adam's sinfulness into our DNA. He decided not to do that to Jesus; he could have done it to all of us. A real god isn't so stupid as to force himself to hate us because he used a tree and a snake to tempt us with our inborn curiosity. If Jesus can barely save people and needs them to follow the church and its track record of atrocities and a muted spirit trapped in a book, perhaps he should have sent his spirit to more people after his biography was published to assure others that he isn't as bad as his church.
Francesco, don't let the enemy of your soul confuse and lie to you. Nor should that mistaken belief lead you to continue to validate sinning. Your sin, our sins, separates us from God. If you were hated in the way you perceive, God Almighty would not even offer forgiveness, let alone have a reconciliation plan through Jesus. But as long as we are rebellious, reject God, and keep on sinning purposefully and habitually, we are enemies of the Almighty. But when we repent, turn intentionally, committedly, broken and truly sorrowful, we can find grace. Proverbs says that the one who continues to sin will not prosper, but the one who not only genuinely confesses his sin AND FORSAKES IT WILL FIND MERCY. That is the truth.
When the word became flesh which was Jesus being born and God being the word entering into the world this would explain why Jesus said I and the Father are one knowing why he was here and what he had to do
A believer who deliberately keep on sinning can lose his/her salvation. He/she becomes an evildoer once again and even worse because he/she is insulting the Spirit of Grace and trampling on the Precious Blood of Jesus.
"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?"
Many think they are saved but are still giving in to sin. But Jesus said in this verses...
Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
We are called to live Holy Lives, that is why GOD has sent HIS HOLY SPIRIT. The Holy Spirit will Help us.
Overtime I lost my faith. There is no hope for me. I cannot be the person God wants me to be because I am selfish person. Always have been and always will be. In the past I have too many bad experiences with Christians. So I don't deal with them. It just better this way.
There is always hope
you have said the truth.
Christians today think God loves everyone. There is no such scripture. Christ also talks about the "elect"...many are called but few are chosen. Christ said he will die only for his friends, and we are his friends if we obey him as he said. His blood CAN cover the sin of the whole world. but he spilt it for those that repent and stop sinning. Not for the whole world, otherwise everyone would be saved and we know this is not the case.
God says he hated Esau, before he was born! But Jacob he loved. its a blessing to see some truth on the internet.
Psalms 5:5 says that God hates the worker of iniquity....clear cut, the worker is the person.
Christians like to quote John 3:16 as the scripture that proves God loves everyone, but it fact it does NOT say this. Its says for God so LOVED (past tense) the world that he gave his only begotten Son...and the next part says that WHOSOEVER believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Thus God loved the world when his Son was born into the world, but when he died, he died only for his sheep as the rest of the world would not repent. Please lets make it clear, repent means to STOP sinning.
So, why does Jesus say we need to love our enemies? Sinners are our enemies. Please explain. Thanx
I do agree repent means stop sinning
I agree well done👏
The invitation of the Holy Spirit is first to repent. Then comes faith in the death of Jesus on the cross on our behalf. Without repentance, no saving faith is possible. We grow to hate our sin.